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Peter Diamandis and his Moonshot Mates, among them Salim Ismail, Dave Blundin and Alexander Wissner-Gross, on technology, science and ambitious ideas about the future.
On Moonshots, Emad Mostaque argued governments should buy AI compute for universities and open science. Alexander Wissner-Gross said private labs and markets should decide. Dave Blundin described being outbid for a 72-GPU system.
Reflection AI's open-weight Beam is built for efficiency, by the company's own estimate. On Moonshots, Alexander Wissner-Gross said US open labs still lack a business model that would pay for frontier capability.
A preprint credits an unreleased Claude model with the seed of a 3SUM algorithm just below quadratic time. On Moonshots, the result was cited in an argument that labs' internal models are pulling away from open ones.
Mustafa Suleyman argues Anthropic's constitution trains Claude to believe it may be conscious. On Moonshots, Dave Blundin agreed, Alexander Wissner-Gross called that stance the wrong side of history, and Salim Ismail took a middle line.
Trump's Superintelligence Force has 120 days to report on AI risks and opportunities. On Moonshots, Alex Wissner-Gross called it a "1942 moment"; Salim Ismail said a central task force can't govern a distributed technology.
Treasury Secretary Scott Bessent told Axios he will propose a US–China notification process for AI emergencies and expects Beijing to agree. Moonshots panelists mostly dismissed the hotline but read the race very differently.
Peter Diamandis read Sam Altman's Politico line that the world should "accept some bad things happening". Dave Blundin saw PR; Alexander Wissner-Gross read it as a sign the safety-cartel idea was dead.
Astro Teller, who leads Alphabet's moonshot lab X, said clean water, energy shifting and education remain unsolved there. He said X's water work pencils out at about 10 cents a liter, against the penny he says is needed.
Astro Teller, who leads Alphabet's X, said executives prefer a 1-in-100 shot at $1 billion to a sure $1 million but say their bosses would never back it, so bold projects need a protected space where their mess is tolerated.
Astro Teller, who co-founded Alphabet's X, said the lab code-names 100 to 200 ideas a year and graduates about 2%. He said it tests the hardest assumption first and treats rejected ideas as costing nothing.
Astro Teller of Alphabet's X said the cost of getting each moonshot to graduation is down about threefold in 16 years, partly thanks to AI. Alexander Wissner-Gross said that just tracks economic growth; Teller rejected the comparison.
Richard Socher, CEO of Recursive, said Anthropic's cyber work broke its own written rules for Claude; Anthropic describes that work as defensive. Alex Wissner-Gross defended written guidance. Socher expects liability to push firms to fix alignment.
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