Peregrine founders Nick Noone and Ben Rudolph say their company inverts public-safety software's data-collection model by joining records agencies already hold, which they own, and leaves facial recognition to customers and law.
David Friedberg argued that open-weight AI models will keep value from pooling in two or three labs, betting someone with zero net worth today will become a billionaire within 10 years by building on downloaded open-source AI.
Uber is investing in Zipline and adding its drones to Uber Eats, targeting one million deliveries a day by end-2029. Moonshots panelists saw it as a test of Uber aggregating demand while suppliers, who could sell direct, own the robots.
Anthropic is reportedly weighing super-voting shares to keep founders in control after its IPO, per The Information. A Moonshots panel splits over who really steers a frontier AI lab: founders, its benefit trust or market pressure.
Moonshots panelists debated a relayed claim that 70% of China's AI token use goes to video: Alex Wissner-Gross said US labs chase revenue per token, and Dave Blundin that video sells where enterprises won't trust Chinese models.
Moonshots panelist Alex floated a hypothetical in which OpenAI rents Jalapeño inference-chip capacity to rivals, after the panel relayed OpenAI's own claimed gains over NVIDIA chips and argued inference is moving off NVIDIA.
NVIDIA reported $96.2 billion in quarterly revenue, up 106%, and guided to $108 billion. On Moonshots, Alexander Wissner-Gross asked how much of that demand NVIDIA financed itself; Dave Blundin argued it will stay sold out.
Emad Mostaque argued on Moonshots that NVIDIA's reported $6 billion open-model deal with Poolside is about driving GPU demand. Panelists split on whether such licensing-and-hiring deals dodge antitrust scrutiny or merger-review delays.
Waymo's sixth-generation driver uses its own 5-nanometer chip and fewer, sharper cameras; a Moonshots panel estimated its autonomous hardware cost falling from $115,000 to $20,000, figures Waymo itself does not quote.
Sam Altman said economic inertia made AI's impact slower than he expected after GPT-4. On Moonshots, Salim Ismail blamed slow institutions, Alexander Wissner-Gross abstraction layers, and Emad Mostaque models that only recently got good.
AI critic Ed Zitron argues chatbots help with small tasks but aren't worth trillions, and that subscriptions hide what usage costs. He asks whether users like the host's fiancée would pay the real per-token price.
Critic Ed Zitron predicts OpenAI runs out of cash in 2027, with losses spreading to SoftBank, Oracle, cloud giants and index-linked retirement savings. Amazon's Andy Jassy says its capital spending is backed by customer commitments.
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